tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25556312.post5194500140919249806..comments2024-03-01T03:16:14.116+00:00Comments on Another Green World: A bottom up democratic Socialist Workers Party?Derek Wallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05462511891409913195noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25556312.post-42856191917971261562008-12-16T15:11:00.000+00:002008-12-16T15:11:00.000+00:00What does "animal liberation" mean anyway? Libera...What does "animal liberation" mean anyway? Liberation can mean simply freedom from restraint. So we let the tigers and wolves from london Zoo loose on the streets of North London. A real vote-winner.<BR/><BR/>In terms like "women's liberation" and "gay liberation" it seems to mean something more, similar to what Marx meant by the "emancipation of the working class". I might summarise it as Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25556312.post-29199860020092618662008-12-16T04:57:00.000+00:002008-12-16T04:57:00.000+00:00"the Green Party, Green Left and the EIN are instr..."the Green Party, Green Left and the EIN are instruments for promoting social justice, ecology, animal liberation, workers control"<BR/><BR/>So animals ocme before the working class. Tells you all you need to know about the fucking Green Party....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25556312.post-77561173389801075752008-12-16T04:42:00.000+00:002008-12-16T04:42:00.000+00:00But unlike the past, this time rank and file SWP m...But unlike the past, this time rank and file SWP members can be more informed about their organisation - what with the blogosphere making it easier for members to get involved in the direction of their party. So, a culture change is on the way, perhaps.Charlie Markshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12770820928636046622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25556312.post-78321375446540027142008-12-15T14:21:00.000+00:002008-12-15T14:21:00.000+00:00biggest mass movement in 60 years and what do they...biggest mass movement in 60 years and what do they do to it?<BR/><BR/>drive it into the ground, alienate as many people as possible then put people off political activism as a result<BR/><BR/>whatever my difference with the Greens, I suspect IF they had been leading the anti-war movement then things might have turned out differently<BR/><BR/>that terrible trait that a lot of Leninists have, as ifModernityBloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06354254639321208955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25556312.post-66722094512966832012008-12-15T13:12:00.000+00:002008-12-15T13:12:00.000+00:00well said, charlie. the last thing the left needs ...well said, charlie. the last thing the left needs is demoralisato#io around economic crisis. I don't understand how the SWP fucked the anti-war ovement. they moved quickly after 9/11 (days in fact) and we got the biggest mass movement we have seen)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25556312.post-2808442701298783582008-12-14T23:34:00.000+00:002008-12-14T23:34:00.000+00:00Let's hope comrades in the SWP can get through the...Let's hope comrades in the SWP can get through their differences by debating with each other, deciding on their future by vote of the membership, and by staying involved in campaigns with other tendencies.<BR/><BR/>A split wouldn't be good news for any of us - we don't need demoralised activists as we're entering a recession.Charlie Markshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12770820928636046622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25556312.post-65782594888559738392008-12-14T16:31:00.000+00:002008-12-14T16:31:00.000+00:00Don't expect anyone to cry any tears over the cont...Don't expect anyone to cry any tears over the continual splintering of the Stupid Wankers Proletariat. They fucked the anti-war movement, then fucked Respect. Now they're too busy fucking themselves for anyone to care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com